Without emotions, we are literally not capable of making decisions. No amount of logical thinking, reasoning, or studying can lead to actual decisions without the influence of emotion: “Cut off from our feelings, the most banal decisions become impossible. A brain that can’t feel can’t make up its mind.”I don't disagree with Adam's assessment, but I think he may be missing some important distinctions about the kinds of decisions in which feelings play a legitimate role, and the kinds of roles that feelings legitimately play.
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Saturday, September 11, 2010
Reason, Feeling, and Decisionmaking
13 comments:
- Joseph Smidt said...
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"Hard experience suggests that what we call “logic” and “the scientific method” are more reliable than emotional preference..."
I think you are making a subtle point here that is actually real: that it is possible logic and the scientific method are not the most reliable things to base decisions off only that experience shows this is the case.
Don't get me wrong, I am a scientist so I love logic and the scientific method and believe they are both very reliable. I just wanted to point out I think how you wrote the sentence was very wise because it is a possibility we are just fooling ourselves. (I don't believe that we are fooling ourselves but I just wanted to admit but technically it is possible.) -
September 12, 2010 12:37 AM
- Andrew S said...
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Assuming that we all emotionally prefer truth to fiction
I think this gets to be pretty circular...how are we to know that what we emotionally prefer is truth, rather than being what we think is true?
I mean, certainly, I don't think many people would say, "Oh man, I prefer to believe in a fiction." But this doesn't mean they are seeking the truth. Rather, they just don't want to feel like what they believe is a fiction (regardless of whether it is or is not.)
So you have to hope that upon some sort of rational test, someone would have emotional responses to disconfirming evidence -- e.g., they would feel uneasy believing what they once did, seeing that it doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
But I wouldn't say this is necessarily the case. -
September 12, 2010 10:16 AM
- Chris said...
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Hey Andrew,
I agree that a lot of people delude themselves (and others) into thinking they value truth above all else, when in fact they don't. Sometimes it's hard to know how much we really value the truth, deep down. However, simply recognizing the possibility that we might be fooling ourselves about that is an important first step to "recovery". If we examine ourselves and test our own motives, those motives will hopefully be forced to the surface so that we can understand them and deal with them.
Peace,
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September 12, 2010 3:52 PM
- Andrew S said...
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but how can you test those motives without relying on those motives?
How can an eye look at itself? -
September 12, 2010 3:53 PM
- Chris said...
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I doubt that someone who doesn't value truth would even try to test and examine their own motives in this manner. So if you are engaging in the exercise, then hopefully that means your motives are sufficient to the task.
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September 12, 2010 3:57 PM
- Andrew S said...
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But that only gets to what I was originally saying. People want to say they value truth. So they are going to do something to be consistent with that.
But I doubt that anyone really does test/examine. I think they test to an extent so they can feel in accordance with their desire to "seek truth," but if they get to some point of uncomfortability, they will back off/seek comfort. -
September 12, 2010 4:01 PM
- Chris said...
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You may be right, Andrew. But I think people will also have different standards for how far they have to go to prove to themselves that they really value truth. Some will stop after a cursory examination. Others will leave their faith communities and perhaps even their friends and families altogether. I guess all we do is try as hard as we can, and hope that at the end of the day we have seen clearly and been honest with ourselves.
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September 12, 2010 4:05 PM
- jmb275 said...
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Good post Chris. I think AdamF's post exhibit the kind of miscommunication that occurs in these circles. Too many neo-atheists want to insist that emotion just gets in the way. AdamF's post points out the hyperbole in such a view.
But really, I don't think neo-atheists mean what they say. If any reasonable person gave it a few moments thought, the idea of getting rid of emotion is absolutely ludicrous.
What such people are really saying is exactly what you're trying to get at here - that if we're interested in truth, mechanisms like logic, and the scientific method have a much better track record.
To this point, Joseph certainly has a point, but as he and I have discussed before, this kind of reasoning only leads to hyperbolic doubt which is a totally useless place to be. -
September 12, 2010 9:39 PM
- C. L. Hanson said...
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Excellent points!
I went back and read the original (MM) post, and I'm actually kind of shocked by it. I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant example of someone arguing: "Since everyone is biased, we have a golden ticket not to bother to examine our our biases, whoopee!" -
September 13, 2010 12:09 AM
- Noel Hausler said...
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I read the SMH article which I think is a good argument for wearing a helmet when riding a bike. In the book The Brain that Changes Itself, the writer talked about a woman who attempted to kill herself after being depressed, by shooting a bullet through her head. She survived but had damage the part of her brain that was responsible for depression. She was not depressed anymore. Chris, do you think this is a good argument against the theory we have a soul/spirit?
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September 14, 2010 10:08 PM
- Chris said...
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Yeah, modern neuroscience definitely creates problems for the notion of a soul. I've seen some interesting attempts to reconcile the two, such as the idea that the soul is merely a carbon-copy of the brain, but at the end of the day I think physicalism is the only real option for the committed Christian. There's some precedent for it, at least, since resurrection is such an important doctrine in historic Christianity. Apparently the early Christians felt the physical body was important, and one can't really be a whole person without it.
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September 14, 2010 10:28 PM
- Walker said...
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I commend the author's efforts, but I think he was conflating emotion with logic as if they had the same function. Damasio dealt with individuals who maintained the ability to reason (i.e. manipulate data), but were unable to mark it with emotion. I've written on the subject: http://walkstar.blogspot.com/2010/05/trusting-feelings.html
To me, it demonstrates that we should not shy away from the emotions brought about by spiritual experiences. However, I think I was clear that we should not rely solely on the emotion itself. I'd like to think that my presentation is a bit more thought out (though you all can be the judge of that). -
September 21, 2010 12:13 AM
- Walker said...
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By the way, 'The Brain That Changes Itself' is a fascinating book. Cool points for making mention of it.
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September 21, 2010 12:15 AM
However, choosing a course of action is a little different than the case of deciding what is true. Assuming that we all emotionally prefer truth to fiction, we will want to employ the most powerful and reliable truth-evaluation techniques available. Hard experience suggests that what we call “logic” and “the scientific method” are more reliable than emotional preference when it comes to assessing the truth or falsity of a proposition. For example, no matter how much I want to believe that there will be no consequences if I do nothing but sit around watching TV and eating popcorn every day, it just isn’t true.
Of course, the assumption that we all emotionally prefer truth to fiction probably isn’t true, either. There are some things many of us would just rather not know. In that case, it is perfectly rational to decide based on emotional preference and to avoid evidence or rational analysis that might potentially disconfirm the alternative one has chosen.